Kickas.org Forums Ankylosing Spondylitis General Discussion #1 AS Web Support Group Survey - Heavy Drinkers...

Like alot of people, I partied a fair bit in college, but I've never actually been a heavy drinker. I always found that it affected my blood sugar too badly. I usually hit a point when a little bell would go off in my head and even if I had just had one sip of a drink, I would switch to water for the rest of the night.

Also, I was showing the first signs long before I had my first beer.

I'm with Pete on the best muscle relaxant in the world, by the way, but again, I had AS long before I started using the 'herbal' stuff.

Now coffee is a different story. Still, I was showing signs of AS before I became a coffee drinker, so who knows.

That said, I used to get bronchitis on a semi-regular basis. But it wasn't all the time. Every couple of years I'd get it once or twice a year, then I'd go a few years without. Not sure if that means anything.

Many hugs,

when i was in the army i got back to the baracks at 4am up at 5am and did PT ate breakfast then did training dinner the drinking again i dont ever remember being sober the whole time...even when out PT consisted of a 5 mile run i never fell out like everyone else i drank with i guess i had a tougher gut...but back then my motto was drink to puke and puke to drink and it continued after i got out of the army i wake i opend a bottle up i went to bed i emptied a bottle and i drank several cases a day of beer and a 5th of whiskey so is that being a heavy drinker....i quit now maybe a beer every now and then but thats it.....oak

people who drink alot,and eat poorly would be prone to many diseases, regardless.
I find it interesting that alcohol addiction is, at heart, a sugar dependancy." Low blood sugar is a factor for 95%
percent of alcoholics,and hypoglycemia may well be a major
cause of alcoholism. Alcohol is the ultimate refined carbohydrate, capable of elevating blood sugar levels faster than white sugar."
I drank the 'Good Life" for a long time. I rarely ate sugar
After quitting, I have been battling sugar cravings quite
unsucessfully.
A link between a.s. and drinking? Too many variables
to think about. Gina

The link from Wikipedia suggest that infection with Klebsiella usually doesn't happen unless there is an underlying health problem like diabetes or alcoholism.

Wikepedia link on Klebsiella

In my case, I tend to think that dietary proteins leaking through my gut wall may be the problem, and not Klebsiella.

I get no reaction from potatoes or brown rice.

I understand that Klebsiella is not a problem when it is in the digestive track, but when it leaks through the gut wall and gets into the blood it is a problem for anyone, not just HLA B27 positive people. But of course I really don't know.

Does anyone know - Is klebsiella in the blood a problem for anyone regardless of being negative for the gene????

Kiwi,

Thanks for the info. Whatever the case may be for coconut/coconut oil - it sure does taste good. My instinct tells me it is a healthy thing - like butter compared to margarine - or fresh juice compared to canned.

I love my oat bran pancakes cooked in coconut oil, or I use it when making smothered chicken and things like that.

No more canola oil, soybean oil, corn oil for me - if I can at all avoid it.

I'm gonna have to getcha some of that good "panamanian rum", or maybe you'll just have to come down here to get it. hugs, T

I am a recovering alcoholic/addict; I have been sober for about 17 1/2 years. I was diagnosed with AS about 6 years ago.

That being said, my symptoms actually started when I was 15/16 years old--just as they did for my brother at the same age. I wasn't a heavy drinker until a couple of years after that.

Speaking of, I'd love to chat with other friends of Bill W here at KA.

I'm not a heavy drinker...only about 155lbs. But I do drink what some would say is too much. I have a tall mug of iced Peisi, laced with a stiff shot of light rum every couple hours starting about 4 in the afternoon. Or noon, depending on how the ol' back is holding up. I would say I drink too much on somedays and not enough on others. Some days I don't even drink. But truth be said, I drink too much in my estimation. But it's better than NSAIDs!!!

Hi, Holly:

I hope this is in the better late than never category...

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John (Drayonslayer) what do you know about this subject? You know so much about Klebsiella. What are your thoughts? I am truly curious. My family has lots of upper respiratory problems, with "walking pneumonia" being one of them. In December last, I broke a rib falling. In Feb, I reinjured the break coughing from "walking pneumonia". I would sincerely like to hear your thoughts.

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Most pneumonias are viral--walking pneumonia is due to a Mycoplasma pneumoniae. A big HOWEVER: All these bugs are somewhat connected, and you can't let in only one; they flock together--like those over 200 bacteria, 3000 viruses, 5-50 fungi, and myriad other creatures that foul our tracts. It was Pasteur's critics who brought up one of the most important issue in infective illness: It is the HOST--the substrate--as much as any specific germ

I know that Kp can live interstitially--between layers of our cells, and form very large colonies that are not attacked by our immune systems because they exude a glue-like (polysaccharide) coating with which to capture our own cell bits and wast products that are left alone by our sentry cells. This bug also does not kill easily, because it is so genetically diverse. It is ancient, opportunistic, and most people are seriously infected with Kp but do not know it or need to--but I am certain that many cases of asthma, environmental illness, and two other diseases, are caused by Kp.

Also, I am absolutely certain (of course...this does not make it so) that AS patients have been cut into during routine operations--then developed pneumonia and died as a result of physicians' continued ignorance of the cause of AS.

The sooner we get it together over the cause of AS, the sooner we will have macrophage therapy or something else to target this formidable foe.

COCONUTS: They are good for you. Except when adulterated with flour--which is common with most commercial shredded coconut. There is no guide that is 100%. YAMS are on the might be good side, because if someone decided to eat one after being strict NSD they probably would not have any trouble. This was demonstrated to me a couple of years ago when a fellow in Canada (good guy--a barrister, I think) called me wondering why whole cooked yams did not cause a problem--but yam soup did. I think the answer is now covered in the 'getting started' pages--I wanted to review and de-redundantize the stuff there so it could take up less sticky top threads...something to do in my spare time...

Health, to all,
John